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2008 Senate Bill 6923 (Providing for a passenger vehicle greenhouse gas excise tax)

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  • Introduced by Sen. Ed Murray, (D-Seattle) on February 6, 2008, provides that the department of licensing must collect an annual vehicle excise tax on greenhouse gas emissions on all motor vehicles licensed under the passenger use class .
    • Referred to the Senate Transportation Committee on February 6, 2008.

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Introduced by Sen. Ed Murray, (D-Seattle) on February 6, 2008. New Comment

1) GET A LIFE [by SIDNY on March 16, 2008]
Thank you for the rather colorful response to Sine Die. The initiative was I-960 not I-695. Sorry for the error.
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2) to; get a life [by Anonymous Citizen on March 16, 2008]
That's moron logic for ya. You make the mistake, and you tell the others to get a life. What a Jerk. Like the man said " Get your facts STRAIT so you don't make a fool of yourself. I guess it's too late for that FOOL.

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3) SINE DIE [by SIDNY on March 15, 2008]
Its all over but the hard to watch signing ceremonies. Big winners are gays, greens,and global warming worshipers. They can all take big high fives. Losers are the taxpayers who were expecting some basic functions, and services of government. We have just witnessed another costly expansion of government that may only benefit a few polar bears. Good government in Olympia is a thing of the past and I no longer expect much from my elected representatives. The initiative process still offers hope but is continually being undermined by underhanded legislation. This session has brought on a law suit. The taxpayers are being sued by Sen. Brown( D Spokane) for passing I-695. No shortage of arrogance in Olympia. Sine Die
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4) Re: sine Die [by Anonymous Citizen on March 16, 2008]
Whate the hell commic book are you getting your infomation from? You're asking for BIG trouble spreading rumors like this. If you think that being an anonymous citizen will keep them from finding out who you are, You just might be in for a big surprise. There is no such thing as anonymous on the internet. Good luck !!!!!
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5) Reply to sine and die [by Anonymous Citizen on March 16, 2008]
What the hell rock did you crawl out from under. Both these bills went in the shitter, and there is no legal action being taken against I-695. You are so full of shit you're eyes must be brown. Get a life Jerk !!!!
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6) to sine die [by Anonymous Citizen on March 16, 2008]
I do not know where you get your information. I do know first hand though that you need to get all the facts before you go and make a fool of yourself. There is no such leagal action against the voters for I-695. All I CAN Say is that I am in a position where it is my buisness to know any such activity FIRST HAND!!, and I'm here to tell you that you Sir,or Mam whichever the case may be, know not what you're talking about. These are the kind of RUMORS that keep things stired up. So don't buy trouble where there is none, there is enough going around without buying more.
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7) I wonder what this idiot drives to work [by Anonymous Citizen on March 6, 2008]
Must be a Cow which has gas which is not environmentally friendly. His is giving me gas..
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8) Just no [by Anonymous Citizen on March 4, 2008]
This is a great way to put good families into the poor house. Please, re-think this. It is so hurtful. With 0 zero proof that it will help anything. Before you pass something like this, at least show us the proof??!!!
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9) It's not too late - Yet [by Anonymous Citizen on March 4, 2008]
We have to make our voices heard to our representatives in order to stop this bill from passing. To that end, if you have not already done so, please send them your request. Although it is not perfect, I have crafted and sent an email to my Washington State Senator and both Representatives. I am including the text of my email and you are welcome to borrow from it, edit it, or throw it away but please join with me in stopping this kind stupidity.

******Body of text below*****

I urge you to vote no on the following bills since they use the faulty premise that global warming is definitively caused by anthropomorphically (people) generated greenhouse gases. The introduction and passage of these bills can only have the purpose of increasing state tax revenues by relieving people of their hard earned money and their freedoms.

Bills specific to the House:
HB 2420 – Establishing a carbon tax
Seems to be in the House Ecology and Parks committee
HB 2421 – Fossil Fuel Tax
It has been referred to the House Appropriations committee
HB 2425 – Electrical equipment incentive tax
It seems to be in the House Ecology and Parks committee

Bills specific to the Senate:
HB 2815 – Implement various “fees”, to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and create “green” collar jobs
Latest update is that it has passed the Senate Ways and Means committee but I am not sure where it goes from there.
HB 1773 – Regarding the implementation of tolls
Latest update is that it has passed the Senate committee on Transportation. - not sure of its status
SB 6923 – Providing for a passenger vehicle greenhouse excise tax (apparently replaces SB 6900)
It has been referred to the Senate Transportation committee – not sure of its status
SB 6900 – Establishing vehicle engine displacement and emissions fees
It has been referred to the Senate Transportation committee – not sure of its status

If any of these bills have been “killed” in committee, please let me know or point me to a website that shows that information as the Washington State Legislature web site does not provide that level of detail.

In short, please stop considering/writing legislation that is based on junk science – the skeptics on this topic are watching, are in the majority, and we vote. To see a sample of the general populace’s opinions regarding this type of legislation, go to the following link and look-up the bills I mention above. http://www.washingtonvotes.org/Legislation.aspx

Since the legislature seems to have overwhelmingly bought into the hype around global warming, I would ask you, my representatives, to educate yourselves and objectively judge the merits of each argument and not just use this "crisis" as an excuse to further the goals of big, socialist government.

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10) Reply to:it's not too late yet [by Anonymous Citizen on March 4, 2008]
BILLS 6900 AND 6923 ARE DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. THEY DID'NT EVEN MAKE IT TO THE STARTING LINE BEFORE THEY WERE SHOT DOWN. TRUST ME , I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU GET MY DRIFT.
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11) Now here's the solution [by Anonymous Citizen on March 3, 2008]
This is one good solution to their so called money problem. and it won't cost us the citizens of Wash. a damned dime, and in time it will also put the American worker back to work making American made products. Here it goes you stupid Yuppies. Put a very large tax on all import manufacturers that have taken the product away from us and sent it overseas. This eventually would force then to start manufacturing back here in the states. Holly crap what a concept. American made products, made by Good old American Labor. This would put everyone that wanted to work , back to work, and keep this forign made crap in their homeland where it belongs. I know this seems like it's a little off the beaten track of this licence fee issue, but if you think about it , it really is'nt. Keeping the product and labor to make it here where it belongs, not in some forign country.This will generate more buisness which generates more tax revenue all the way arround. It would be nice to see just about everything we buy carrying the label MADE IN AMERICA one again.
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12) reply to here's the solution [by Anonymous Citizen on March 3, 2008]
Not bad. Not bad at all. I like it, Now, one thing you forgot. Send all these illeagals back to wherever the hell it is they came from, this would cut down on a lot of their make believe greenhouse gasses, global warming, ozon layer bullshit. Because that's all it is, Bullshit.
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13) A thought on Illegals [by Ranger-21 on March 6, 2008]
"Ask the American Indians what happens when you don't control immigration."




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14) Tax and Spend [by Anonymous Citizen on March 1, 2008]
I have noticed any bills that have come up are always tax and spend bills and none other than the West Coast Democrats---maybe they should get a real job and a real life and find out how hard it is to keep your head above the water when everytime you turn around they are taking our money away one way or another. some of these hair-brained ideas that are thought up tells me one thing---you are over paid and not qualified for the job of WE THE PEOPLE.

What is it going to take to get the message across to you we do not want more taxes of any kind and what money you do get from WE THE PEOPLE--spend it sensible where it is for the good of the entire state not just the west side.
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15) Reply to: Tax and Spend [by Anonymous Citizen on March 2, 2008]
RIGHT ON. Very well put. How fast people forget about the New Stadium that we overwhelmingly voted down. BUT NO, these damned democrats could'nt accept that, so what do they do ? They over ride our vote, just like they have done so many times before and implode a perfectly good, not yet paid for Kingdome. How did they pay for this new stadium? You guessed it with our highway tax money, and you better believe it because at the time I was in a position where I knew this first hand. . How stupid, and short of memory do they think we are anyway. There's only one thing that pisses me off more than their damned taxes upon taxes, and that's the fact that they think we're so stupid that we can't see right through their scheming little minds. They just can't get it through their little pea brains, WE'VE HAD IT, NO MORE TAXES PERIOD.
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16) Good bye [by Anonymous Citizen on February 29, 2008]
So long you sorry as Democraps. You are so damned stupid it's funny. You just can't get it through your head. When you play with a big gun such as this bill, sooner or later you're going to shoot yourself in the foot. In this case you missed your foot and commited political suicide. You all are going to be looking for jobs come election time. You poor stupid Democraps.
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17) Are you blind? [by Anonymous Citizen on February 29, 2008]
I don't get it. You balme the Democats for the last 8 years of Ruplicans in the White House? Eight years of letting the banks get away with increasing added fees and outrageous high interest rates. Eight years of adjustable mortgages that are kicking in and people are losing their homes. Eight years of not caring about the hard working blue collar guys while fat cat Republican bankers are living the high life?

And you call us stupid? Wake up and smell the coffee Bubba.
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18) reply to are you blind [by Anonymous Citizen on March 3, 2008]
You're the blind one. It might help you see the way it really is if you would just do what all these liberals should do....... Just get your head out of your Asses.
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19) Those stupid Damned Idiots [by Anonymous Citizen on February 28, 2008]
The stupidest of all being that damned bi-ch that we have as a govenor. I still don't know how the hell she got in office. one recount win to two recount losses in my book dont make her the winner. Good old Communist Democraps,( yes that was how I intended to spell it ) cause that's what they are just full of CRAP. Just like this damned bill. They seen that they were not going to get anywhere with bill 6900, so they introduced this ridiculous damned bill. How stupid do they think we are. It's the same damned bill with a little different wording. I say this to all those over payed, pocket linning, S.O.B's in Olympia. The citizens of this state have had enough of your F--king taxes. We live from pay day to pay day as it is simply because we have to give all our money to greedy bastards. It's time for us , the voting puplic to oust these crooks before they bankrupts us. We need to shake Olympia's rugs clean and get rid of all these liberal Piss Ants.
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20) reply to Those stupid damned idiots [by Anonymous Citizen on February 28, 2008]
WOW !!!!!! That just about says it all. Could'nt agree with you more.
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21) SB 6923 [by Anonymous Citizen on February 26, 2008]
Obviously this is an attempt to get back at us for Prop 1. The current over tax of gas has not produced results in 'fixing' the roads so they want more, more, more. This does not address those 'single' drivers that fill the roads every work day but again is the shotgun approach to bring in more cash without thinking it through. Because I took the bus to work for 10 years, I averaged less than 5K a year for my vehicle. Here's a 'THANK YOU' for reducing my driving (and emissions). The bus system works. Improve it and make it more convenient for ALL and that will do more than any lite rail that will take MANY Y
EARS to develop! Olympia, do what you were elected to do, THINK FIRST! LAF
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22) wpntzek ahvu [by Anonymous Citizen on March 6, 2008]
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23) gassssss [by Anonymous Citizen on February 24, 2008]
Its all left wing gasssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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24) troll [by Anonymous Citizen on February 24, 2008]
you tax us to live you tax us to die you tax us to drive for what? to fill your pockets and do nothing for washington state and me. here's a new tax the hot air and bs tax for all the time and money you waste.
you tax us right out of our homes our cars our lives and jobs.
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25) JAKATAK [by Anonymous Citizen on February 21, 2008]
Senator Murray. Get off your high horse and come down to earth. You are not God. You are a political prostitute who sold his soul to the special interest in this state. Why do you feel you have to dig more money out of the citizens when you mis=manage allof the money you tax us for now. Quite wasting our tax money and quite trying to sqeeze more out of us. Get a real job and stop being a socialist. We don't need a greenhouse tax.
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26) What idiots we have in Olympia [by Anonymous Citizen on February 20, 2008]
From the govenor on down, you are idiots. You are driving the people who pay your salary out of this very State. We have to put up with one stupid radical bill after another. Have you ever in your life had to make ends meet? You have bought into this whole global warming hoax which is your choice but how dare you try and ram it down all of our throats. It is time to vote all of you out of office starting from the top. I just gave a large donation to Dino and I intend to work very hard to get him elected. I voted for the wrong person 4 years ago and boy was I wrong. It won't happen again and a lot of my friends feel the same way.
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27) HAHAHAH!! [by Anonymous Citizen on February 20, 2008]
I love it! This is what all of you Seattle/San Francisco liberals wanted. You all got what you voted for! "feel good" legislation that taxes the shit out of you and does nothing to "save the environment"
The libs love to make fun of the Republicans for taking their freedoms away, these democrats are trying everthing to do just that. In the last year in this state we have seen more attempts to chip away at our freedoms than ever before. It's always made in the name of some made-up "Crisis" or "emergency" In the future, be carefull what you wish/vote for!
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28) Out of CONTROLL!!! [by Anonymous Citizen on February 20, 2008]
These people are out of control, one asinine bill after another! You can be pretty much assured that these people have NOT spent much IF ANY time working in the private sector trying to make ends meet. It may be a big game to them but I do not see it that way! We need to keep track of these self-righteous idiots and vote them out! Let them work for a living and see how they like it! Better yet, we can review their performance at the end of each year and propose a bill to decide how much of THEIR money they should keep!
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29) kill it [by Anonymous Citizen on February 18, 2008]
get rid of this now
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30) WTF?????? Are they really that stupid?? [by Anonymous Citizen on February 17, 2008]
So far, global warming is failing to produce. Hello- we have had more snow along with colder weather this year than we have had in 10-20 years!! Just look around, we have a 30year record snow on White pass, 20year record snow on Snowqualme, etc. But yet we will probably pay for it yet again because these politicians will lie to us to get us to believe that we are in a drout this summer- you watch and see. The people spoke when we voted down the gas tax.. but our B!T(H of a governer overturned it. All I can say is we had better replace as many idiots on the hill as we can this November or this kind of stupidity will never end! They should be tax for being stupid!
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31) Dems use taxes to limit freedom. [by Jakryabre on February 14, 2008]
Democrats complain and preach how the Republicans are taking our freedoms away, they do it by taxing what they don't like. They figure if you won't see it our way then we will make money off of your decision.
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32) reply to dems use taxes [by Anonymous Citizen on March 3, 2008]
Just like Commies ain't they ???
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33) It's our fault, we eleted these clowns [by Anonymous Citizen on February 13, 2008]
Why is it that we are praised for being intelligent when we elect these idiot socialists, but then they tell us that we are to stupid to spend our own money and must turn it over to them?

It's time we all start voting voting with the following in mind:

LESS TAXES, SMALLER GOVERNMENT, MORE FREEDOM!

We deserve it.
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34) reply to: it's our fault [by Anonymous Citizen on March 3, 2008]
How can it be our fault when they just keep doing re-counts of the ballots until it comes out in their favor. We did NOT elect that crooked damned govenor we have now. The bi-ch lost 2 out of three re-counts, not to mention the first count, so that makes it one win??? to three losses. And they say they are for the people, YEA RIGHT !!!! How can you even feel good about voteing when in your heart you know it will only come out for the vote of people, so long as they want it that way, and that ain't very often my friends. This is not only on a state level, but on national level also.
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35) Green house gases [by Anonymous Citizen on February 13, 2008]
I heard that Mt. St. Helens was the biggest contributor to Green house gases for the state of Washington. So how to you solve for that? We all know this is the underlying tax to fund the I-5 corridor and infrastructure for the West side of the state. Get off of the Green House gas issue. It is the latest and greatest political issue to generate revenue from the masses for an issue that is bigger than the state of Washington.
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36) Greenhouse gases & Mt. St. Helens [by Anonymous Citizen on February 27, 2008]
Yes, Mt. St. Helens contributes much more than my driving to work so I can pay my taxes to build roads on the Commie side of the state. How tostop Mt. St. Helens, you ask? Stuff it full of the people who elected the wackos who come up with the crap bills that choke Eastern Washington. Really, it's time to divide the state.
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37) Green house gas Tax [by Anonymous Citizen on February 13, 2008]
Why do I as a Washington resident have to be fined for the gas emissions of China and India. We as Americans are far more advanced with our current regulations than most of the world. This state and country alone is not going to fix this so called Global warming. When they start paying their share then I may be more inclined to care. Until then leave my check book out of your policies.
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38) sicntiredofstatebs [by Anonymous Citizen on February 12, 2008]
This is another Tax to make up for Tim Eyemans petition.
Raising Taxes because of mismanagement is a NO NO.

How about the Fuel Guzzling 1930 Ferry Boats???

These Bozos need to fill up their State Car with their own $$$. Then they could see where the public is at. We ARE OUT OF MONEY!!!!!!!
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39) Vehicle excise tax [by Anonymous Citizen on February 11, 2008]
How many times, Sen Murray, do you have to be hit in the head to figure out that Washington vehicle owners don't want higher licence fees on their vehicles?
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40) Another Money Grab [by dwindom on February 7, 2008]
Without getting into the baloney of the whole global warming debate, this bill is yet another tax on the citizens of Washington, introduced by I-5 corridor senators. The bill makes invalid assumptions such as the number of miles driven annually. My farm pickup would be taxed at over $200 when it only travels to town twice a month to pick up feed.

The people of Washigton are taxed enough. I moved here from Montana a little over a year ago and I have been astonished and horrified at the amount of taxes, fees, user taxes and excise taxes and fees I have to pay just to conduct the normal affairs of life.

This bill needs to be stomped down and stopped ASAP.

Thanks in advance for your support on this.


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